1 00:00:17,939 --> 00:00:15,869 nasa is known for its iconic Mission 2 00:00:20,429 --> 00:00:17,949 Control Center in Houston Texas where 3 00:00:23,009 --> 00:00:20,439 every NASA human mission into space has 4 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:23,019 been controlled since 1965 5 00:00:26,490 --> 00:00:25,090 well just like NASA uses a mission 6 00:00:29,009 --> 00:00:26,500 control center to run its human 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:29,019 operations in space the human body has 8 00:00:34,590 --> 00:00:30,970 it's very own mission control center the 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:34,600 brain but just imagine if NASA's mission 10 00:00:37,470 --> 00:00:35,890 control center had to work in 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:37,480 environments it wasn't designed to 12 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:40,330 operate in things might not operate and 13 00:00:44,070 --> 00:00:42,160 function as planned and that's what 14 00:00:46,740 --> 00:00:44,080 we'll be looking at how the human body's 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:46,750 mission control the brain operates in 16 00:00:51,690 --> 00:00:49,330 the unique environment of space hi I'm 17 00:01:07,349 --> 00:00:51,700 NASA astronaut Tracy Dyson welcome to 18 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:07,359 station life in this episode of station 19 00:01:11,849 --> 00:01:09,310 life we're going to look at the brain in 20 00:01:13,770 --> 00:01:11,859 space and the Associated studies 21 00:01:15,929 --> 00:01:13,780 conducted onboard the International 22 00:01:17,999 --> 00:01:15,939 Space Station we'll learn about the 23 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:18,009 effects of microgravity on the brain and 24 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:20,320 the psychological effects of living in 25 00:01:25,169 --> 00:01:23,020 relative isolation far away from home in 26 00:01:27,929 --> 00:01:25,179 a stressful and hazardous environment 27 00:01:29,279 --> 00:01:27,939 we'll see how the European Space Agency 28 00:01:31,169 --> 00:01:29,289 is studying the effects of microgravity 29 00:01:33,809 --> 00:01:31,179 and neuroplasticity 30 00:01:35,550 --> 00:01:33,819 using parabolic flight we'll talk about 31 00:01:38,099 --> 00:01:35,560 what it's like to acclimate to living in 32 00:01:40,230 --> 00:01:38,109 microgravity we'll hear from scientists 33 00:01:42,209 --> 00:01:40,240 here at the Johnson Space Center that 34 00:01:44,249 --> 00:01:42,219 are studying sensory motor adaptability 35 00:01:45,809 --> 00:01:44,259 training and recovery of functional 36 00:01:49,139 --> 00:01:45,819 performance following long-duration 37 00:01:54,090 --> 00:01:49,149 spaceflight get ready lots of 38 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:54,100 information is heading your way one of 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:55,600 the many challenges that we face on our 40 00:02:00,649 --> 00:01:58,450 mission to Mars is how our brain will 41 00:02:02,330 --> 00:02:00,659 adapt to the changes in gravity 42 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:02,340 if you take up the six months to get 43 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:04,110 there but here's the problem the more 44 00:02:07,789 --> 00:02:05,969 time you spend in space the longer takes 45 00:02:09,559 --> 00:02:07,799 your brain to readapt to gravity so what 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:09,569 does that mean landing on Mars after 47 00:02:12,979 --> 00:02:11,130 being weightless for six months you have 48 00:02:14,870 --> 00:02:12,989 trouble walking straight your vision is 49 00:02:18,140 --> 00:02:14,880 affected poor eye hand coordination 50 00:02:20,660 --> 00:02:18,150 motion sickness dizziness vomiting some 51 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:20,670 people don't even want to move landing 52 00:02:24,020 --> 00:02:22,080 is one of the most critical aspects of 53 00:02:26,270 --> 00:02:24,030 the journey so how will this impact our 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:26,280 trip to Mars first of all landing on 55 00:02:30,290 --> 00:02:28,290 Mars will require good eye hand 56 00:02:32,030 --> 00:02:30,300 coordination and perception so say you 57 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:32,040 have a safe touchdown but there's an 58 00:02:34,370 --> 00:02:33,840 emergency situation and you have to exit 59 00:02:36,229 --> 00:02:34,380 the vehicle 60 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:36,239 if you can't function it could be a 61 00:02:40,130 --> 00:02:38,670 pretty dangerous situation this is just 62 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:40,140 one of the human challenges we'll face 63 00:02:43,850 --> 00:02:42,000 on a mission to Mars we don't have all 64 00:02:46,130 --> 00:02:43,860 the answers yet but we do have the key 65 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:46,140 the International Space Station every 66 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:47,760 day aboard we're learning more and more 67 00:02:50,990 --> 00:02:49,680 about how our bodies adapt to weightless 68 00:02:53,539 --> 00:02:51,000 environments and gravitational 69 00:02:55,580 --> 00:02:53,549 transitions we're going to Mars it won't 70 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:55,590 be easy but because of the research that 71 00:02:59,600 --> 00:02:57,630 we're doing today on the ground and 72 00:03:01,450 --> 00:02:59,610 aboard the International Space Station 73 00:03:20,790 --> 00:03:01,460 we'll be ready 74 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:24,100 today I've been looking actually at the 75 00:03:30,220 --> 00:03:27,260 brain and how the brain the brain reacts 76 00:03:32,940 --> 00:03:30,230 to microgravity in a sense it's a very 77 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:32,950 simple experiment because we do before 78 00:03:39,850 --> 00:03:36,680 we take off in which parabolic flight we 79 00:03:43,090 --> 00:03:39,860 do an MRI measurement this scanner in a 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:43,100 hospital in Bordeaux and then I off to 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:45,050 the fight we do the same and then we 82 00:03:49,810 --> 00:03:47,330 look at the image of the brain and by 83 00:03:52,330 --> 00:03:49,820 subtracting both images before and after 84 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:52,340 microgravity by parabolic flights we 85 00:03:57,780 --> 00:03:55,550 hope to see changes these changes it 86 00:04:00,910 --> 00:03:57,790 it's called neuroplasticity and 87 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:00,920 neuroplasticity is something we all know 88 00:04:05,410 --> 00:04:03,470 somehow I can give the example of a 89 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:05,420 bicycle if you are a kid and you're 90 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:08,090 right a bicycle or you try you fall over 91 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:10,250 all the time because you can't do it and 92 00:04:16,090 --> 00:04:12,260 then suddenly like this you can do it 93 00:04:17,650 --> 00:04:16,100 and it's very tricky wise but some 94 00:04:19,090 --> 00:04:17,660 somewhere in the brain there must be 95 00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:19,100 some connections something which is 96 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:21,320 happening actually we want to do the 97 00:04:24,490 --> 00:04:23,090 same to find out how is the brain 98 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:24,500 reacting to microgravity 99 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:28,190 where does changes take place in the 100 00:04:33,390 --> 00:04:31,490 brain we all know it is a very very 101 00:04:35,170 --> 00:04:33,400 complicated system with a lot of 102 00:04:37,390 --> 00:04:35,180 connections actually and it's the 103 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:37,400 connections which make differences 104 00:04:41,650 --> 00:04:39,890 between people why people can make some 105 00:04:45,130 --> 00:04:41,660 logical reasoning and other people can 106 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:45,140 do it less or be creative or other type 107 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:47,630 of habits it has much to do with the 108 00:04:52,210 --> 00:04:49,330 create we take connections in the brain 109 00:04:57,220 --> 00:04:52,220 and these connections sometimes are also 110 00:04:58,840 --> 00:04:57,230 missing when in patients races so we 111 00:05:01,810 --> 00:04:58,850 want to look with this method or 112 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:01,820 methodology of looking at the brain 113 00:05:06,730 --> 00:05:04,400 before and after such a huge impact as 114 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:06,740 microgravity we found we want to find 115 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:09,110 out where does the change take place 116 00:05:16,450 --> 00:05:11,530 which F really we are related to 117 00:05:19,050 --> 00:05:16,460 dizziness motion sickness fluid shifts 118 00:05:21,940 --> 00:05:19,060 things which really happen in 119 00:05:24,220 --> 00:05:21,950 astronautical notes but the same during 120 00:05:26,590 --> 00:05:24,230 on board on this parabolic flight 121 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:26,600 by using the model of three and post 122 00:05:32,860 --> 00:05:29,930 parabolic flight we hope to find regions 123 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:32,870 which are particularly busy and 124 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:35,680 continuing to change all the time to 125 00:05:42,340 --> 00:05:38,870 adapt to microgravity because it's known 126 00:05:43,750 --> 00:05:42,350 that people who fly the first day many 127 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:43,760 of them are ill if they don't take 128 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:46,190 medication but the second day on the 129 00:05:51,490 --> 00:05:49,400 third day they are much better so the 130 00:05:53,890 --> 00:05:51,500 must have been changes in the brain real 131 00:05:57,460 --> 00:05:53,900 changes that's what I want to look at 132 00:06:00,760 --> 00:05:57,470 the methodology of MRI methods we use is 133 00:06:04,210 --> 00:06:00,770 a bit different than the normal ones we 134 00:06:07,030 --> 00:06:04,220 look at diffusion in the neural tracts 135 00:06:08,590 --> 00:06:07,040 and I can explain it simply by saying 136 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:08,600 suppose you have a helicopter and you 137 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:11,690 stay with this helicopter like one day 138 00:06:17,050 --> 00:06:14,210 on top of a big city I'm Saddam or 139 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:17,060 Brussels or London and but this camera 140 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:19,250 of this helicopter head it's not a power 141 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:21,650 to see the buildings only the people who 142 00:06:27,010 --> 00:06:24,170 are moving on their bike walking or in 143 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:27,020 the cars after one day we will have a 144 00:06:32,650 --> 00:06:29,810 map of this city we will know the main 145 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:32,660 roads the small roads the places where 146 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:36,290 things are happening or big big streams 147 00:06:41,950 --> 00:06:39,170 of connectivity that's what we do with 148 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:41,960 this methodology of tractography by 149 00:07:05,450 --> 00:07:01,159 so when I first got to space on sts-118 150 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:05,460 unborn endeavor it was my job to unstrap 151 00:07:11,089 --> 00:07:08,479 as soon as we got main engine cutoff and 152 00:07:13,609 --> 00:07:11,099 blow it out of my seat grab a video 153 00:07:15,649 --> 00:07:13,619 camera and videotape the external tank 154 00:07:17,420 --> 00:07:15,659 falling away so I was one of the very 155 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:17,430 first people to get out of my seat and 156 00:07:21,159 --> 00:07:19,199 all I remember is I hope I don't screw 157 00:07:23,719 --> 00:07:21,169 this up so I had no time to think about 158 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:23,729 acclimating to microgravity I had no 159 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:25,830 time to think of am I gonna get sick am 160 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:28,050 I gonna be disoriented I just knew I had 161 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:30,089 to get that camera on the external tank 162 00:07:36,559 --> 00:07:33,229 and it did that without any hitches and 163 00:07:38,869 --> 00:07:36,569 after I launched on the Soyuz rocket and 164 00:07:40,999 --> 00:07:38,879 I got inside the space station I just 165 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:41,009 remember it being like this big swim 166 00:07:46,339 --> 00:07:43,050 tank your brain goes through this period 167 00:07:49,369 --> 00:07:46,349 where you you think that's not the way 168 00:07:51,619 --> 00:07:49,379 it is at home but it was a matter of 169 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:51,629 minutes before I just made sense out of 170 00:07:56,209 --> 00:07:53,610 it and flipped myself around so it was 171 00:07:57,739 --> 00:07:56,219 you don't like that for everybody but 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:07:57,749 some of us get up there and it's just 173 00:08:03,139 --> 00:08:00,050 like you were made to float in space 174 00:08:04,969 --> 00:08:03,149 okay so now coming back home that's kind 175 00:08:09,019 --> 00:08:04,979 of a different story when you come back 176 00:08:11,929 --> 00:08:09,029 into the tentacles of gravity it it 177 00:08:14,389 --> 00:08:11,939 pulls you down it weighs you down it 178 00:08:16,909 --> 00:08:14,399 makes you heavy it makes you tired it 179 00:08:19,850 --> 00:08:16,919 makes you feel like you are a big 180 00:08:21,769 --> 00:08:19,860 concrete cinder block and it's it's all 181 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:21,779 you can do to just lift your arm I 182 00:08:27,170 --> 00:08:24,360 remember coming back from on my shuttle 183 00:08:30,079 --> 00:08:27,180 flight that I did feel a little 184 00:08:32,659 --> 00:08:30,089 disoriented and walking by myself was a 185 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:32,669 little bit of a challenge but you get 186 00:08:36,170 --> 00:08:34,560 over it kind of quickly but when I was 187 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:36,180 on board the space station and I lived 188 00:08:41,980 --> 00:08:38,010 there for six months and I came back on 189 00:08:45,470 --> 00:08:41,990 a capsule and bam landed on the ground 190 00:08:49,370 --> 00:08:45,480 that was one of those cases where I felt 191 00:08:51,650 --> 00:08:49,380 like I wait I I weighed about like an 192 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:51,660 anvil and I couldn't even lift my arm up 193 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:54,420 to unhook myself from my seat and I 194 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:55,800 didn't know how I was going to get out 195 00:09:08,730 --> 00:08:56,080 of 196 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:08,740 rude awakening hi I'm Terry Virts and I 197 00:09:12,570 --> 00:09:11,440 want to talk about floating in space one 198 00:09:14,910 --> 00:09:12,580 of the first things that you need to 199 00:09:16,620 --> 00:09:14,920 realize when you get into space is that 200 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:16,630 even though you feel like you're falling 201 00:09:22,290 --> 00:09:19,570 you're not and you don't have to flail 202 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:22,300 like that you can just sit still you can 203 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:26,230 let go and you float it's not a problem 204 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:28,240 if something really have to train your 205 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:30,910 brain to think about and it takes a 206 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:32,110 little bit of time to get used to that 207 00:09:37,170 --> 00:09:34,450 that sensation of falling but realizing 208 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:37,180 you're not falling and you can pretend 209 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:38,680 like you're on the moon we have some 210 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:43,810 buddies here you can go down it's not 211 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:45,670 quite gravity but you can sort of be 212 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:57,010 walking on the moon well welcome would 213 00:10:01,410 --> 00:09:58,930 you would you can you believe who we 214 00:10:03,390 --> 00:10:01,420 have with us today I am so excited I can 215 00:10:06,810 --> 00:10:03,400 hardly get a sentence out but we have 216 00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:06,820 with us today the one the only Mike 217 00:10:15,090 --> 00:10:09,790 Suffredini the outgoing ISS program 218 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:15,100 manager big station life welcome to you 219 00:10:18,420 --> 00:10:16,510 thank you so much for being here thank 220 00:10:19,650 --> 00:10:18,430 you so much for having me oh I am 221 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:19,660 obviously you can tell I'm really 222 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:22,270 excited I mean we just to put this in 223 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:24,010 context we have with us the the Big 224 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:27,070 Kahuna the the tribal leader the the 225 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:30,010 decision-making dude of the ISS for the 226 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:34,090 last decade and there is just I think no 227 00:10:39,570 --> 00:10:38,410 better way to to say bon voyage than to 228 00:10:41,130 --> 00:10:39,580 be here on station life what do you 229 00:10:43,830 --> 00:10:41,140 think absolutely I think that's right I 230 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:43,840 be I walked through the front of 231 00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:45,970 building one on my way in and out every 232 00:10:52,140 --> 00:10:48,550 day and I see you talking about station 233 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:52,150 life and all these things I go sometimes 234 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:54,790 we are making dreams come true here on 235 00:11:00,960 --> 00:10:57,970 station like well you know when it comes 236 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:00,970 to station I think there's the name 237 00:11:04,319 --> 00:11:03,310 Suffredini and station are almost 238 00:11:06,539 --> 00:11:04,329 synonymous 239 00:11:08,309 --> 00:11:06,549 because you have been with the station 240 00:11:10,109 --> 00:11:08,319 since the beginning when it was being 241 00:11:12,449 --> 00:11:10,119 assembled and even before you became 242 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:12,459 program manager you have been a part of 243 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:14,769 building and developing this space 244 00:11:19,379 --> 00:11:16,959 station and you when you stepped into 245 00:11:22,229 --> 00:11:19,389 the role as program manager you had a 246 00:11:25,109 --> 00:11:22,239 vision and I'm I'm curious now as you 247 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:25,119 are retiring from NASA and leaving the 248 00:11:29,970 --> 00:11:27,519 station and some very capable hands if 249 00:11:32,489 --> 00:11:29,980 how you feel your vision from the 250 00:11:36,090 --> 00:11:32,499 beginning meets the vision here as 251 00:11:37,439 --> 00:11:36,100 you're leaving so you know when I came 252 00:11:40,049 --> 00:11:37,449 to the program 253 00:11:41,869 --> 00:11:40,059 it's been about 20 years so in his 254 00:11:45,419 --> 00:11:41,879 program answer that's Tim before that 255 00:11:47,989 --> 00:11:45,429 you know it was the idea of just 256 00:11:51,539 --> 00:11:47,999 building a station was a daunting task 257 00:11:54,119 --> 00:11:51,549 the first several years of everyone's 258 00:11:56,970 --> 00:11:54,129 life was really about building it is it 259 00:11:59,069 --> 00:11:56,980 remotely possible to build it we had all 260 00:12:01,019 --> 00:11:59,079 kinds of wild plans every element that 261 00:12:03,119 --> 00:12:01,029 flew to space station we assumed in the 262 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:03,129 design that it would fly twice that it 263 00:12:07,259 --> 00:12:05,649 would go up to station once we wouldn't 264 00:12:09,210 --> 00:12:07,269 wouldn't be successful it could fly home 265 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:09,220 on the shuttle we'd fix whatever problem 266 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:10,720 with us and fly it again every single 267 00:12:14,309 --> 00:12:11,889 module was built that way 268 00:12:17,659 --> 00:12:14,319 and of course we never had to which is a 269 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:17,669 miracle in and of itself so as we 270 00:12:22,169 --> 00:12:20,769 started to see the end and insight and 271 00:12:24,569 --> 00:12:22,179 said oh my goodness gracious we're 272 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:24,579 actually gonna get this done then we 273 00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:26,290 start thinking about the research more 274 00:12:30,299 --> 00:12:28,110 and more and other the research guys 275 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:30,309 we're always thinking about research 276 00:12:35,549 --> 00:12:32,649 through the rest of us even as the even 277 00:12:37,319 --> 00:12:35,559 as the research guy the rest of us were 278 00:12:38,999 --> 00:12:37,329 focusing on just getting built but 279 00:12:40,319 --> 00:12:39,009 saying okay we have to do research then 280 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:40,329 sometime and that's what the research 281 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:42,610 guys really helped us keep the focus on 282 00:12:47,309 --> 00:12:45,610 and and a lot of the folks in management 283 00:12:49,409 --> 00:12:47,319 today have spent their time and research 284 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:49,419 which i think is good but what research 285 00:12:54,389 --> 00:12:51,040 was back then was even different than 286 00:12:55,799 --> 00:12:54,399 what it is today so it also with the the 287 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:55,809 research and this the things you were 288 00:12:59,699 --> 00:12:57,730 mentioning there's a lot of benefits of 289 00:13:02,579 --> 00:12:59,709 the International Space Station to 290 00:13:06,059 --> 00:13:02,589 humanity in all sorts of ways and not 291 00:13:06,509 --> 00:13:06,069 just humanity in terms of right here on 292 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:06,519 earth 293 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:08,980 but also going beyond lower 294 00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:12,250 but what are some of the things that you 295 00:13:18,389 --> 00:13:14,079 see the space station doing to help us 296 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:18,399 get to beyond low-earth orbit to Mars so 297 00:13:23,069 --> 00:13:20,470 you know the biggest one right how do we 298 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:23,079 keep people after you healthy and that's 299 00:13:27,449 --> 00:13:25,870 John that's that's a tough nut to crack 300 00:13:28,949 --> 00:13:27,459 you know we're starting to sort it out 301 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:28,959 in low-earth orbit 302 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:30,760 I think crews are coming home now with 303 00:13:34,850 --> 00:13:32,769 in a lot of cases more bone mass than 304 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:34,860 they left with yeah that's right amazing 305 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:37,839 so we now we're learning other things 306 00:13:42,269 --> 00:13:39,760 the eyes issues associated with the eye 307 00:13:43,949 --> 00:13:42,279 that we're working on so so human health 308 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:43,959 of course is the most important thing 309 00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:47,980 and we say we need till 2026 but I would 310 00:13:53,189 --> 00:13:50,350 tell you it'll take beyond that we'll be 311 00:13:57,269 --> 00:13:53,199 always learning about the human system 312 00:13:59,129 --> 00:13:57,279 so I know that you've got you've got to 313 00:14:01,860 --> 00:13:59,139 leave the station in very capable hands 314 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:01,870 with Kirk Shireman coming on board you 315 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:03,310 and Kirk have worked a long time 316 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:05,050 together man you've known each other for 317 00:14:08,939 --> 00:14:07,600 a long time what would you like to say 318 00:14:11,870 --> 00:14:08,949 anything more about that or should I 319 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:11,880 tell everybody which guys go way back 320 00:14:19,949 --> 00:14:15,850 I've been on the same street from the 321 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:19,959 same city we were pals back then but I'm 322 00:14:25,139 --> 00:14:21,040 sure it has something to do with the 323 00:14:27,689 --> 00:14:25,149 water we were drinking exactly that Kirk 324 00:14:30,509 --> 00:14:27,699 was when I became program manager took 325 00:14:32,129 --> 00:14:30,519 me a little while to find a deputy and 326 00:14:34,860 --> 00:14:32,139 Kirk was it and Kirk has been with me 327 00:14:36,449 --> 00:14:34,870 for about seven and a half I don't 328 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:36,459 remember the time but it's like 7-7 329 00:14:40,829 --> 00:14:37,720 after years anyone ought to be deputy 330 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:40,839 center director now he's back so Kirk no 331 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:44,050 station cold he's he's a wonderful 332 00:14:48,449 --> 00:14:46,810 individual he's a great leader so he'll 333 00:14:50,069 --> 00:14:48,459 do a great job I feel like I've lived in 334 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:50,079 capable hands and of course we have a 335 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:52,360 number of individuals that operate 336 00:14:57,059 --> 00:14:54,850 different organizations flight ops is 337 00:14:58,410 --> 00:14:57,069 one there's a bunch of them and I feel 338 00:15:00,540 --> 00:14:58,420 like the leadership team that's in 339 00:15:02,759 --> 00:15:00,550 places is very capable as well so I feel 340 00:15:04,769 --> 00:15:02,769 good about that part of it as much as I 341 00:15:06,809 --> 00:15:04,779 hate leaving this wonderful job that we 342 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:06,819 do and I can well is there anything else 343 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:09,519 that you can think of about the space 344 00:15:12,730 --> 00:15:10,370 station you 345 00:15:15,549 --> 00:15:12,740 share with the audience sir you know 346 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:15,559 it's I will I you know station people 347 00:15:20,590 --> 00:15:17,120 have asked me you know what's your 348 00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:20,600 legacy and to me the station is not my 349 00:15:26,470 --> 00:15:21,230 legacy 350 00:15:28,540 --> 00:15:26,480 no kidding no matter what anybody thinks 351 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:28,550 today it is no kidding in the end would 352 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:30,170 work the one of Mars we're gonna look 353 00:15:33,549 --> 00:15:32,089 back and go we were able to do it 354 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:33,559 because we built that station we 355 00:15:36,999 --> 00:15:35,930 successfully use that station we kept it 356 00:15:38,290 --> 00:15:37,009 on a little bit long enough to get 357 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:38,300 everything we needed out of it so we 358 00:15:43,389 --> 00:15:41,300 could go do exploration and and we will 359 00:15:45,549 --> 00:15:43,399 look back on this and go that was that 360 00:15:47,769 --> 00:15:45,559 was it that's what we did to get us 361 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:47,779 started and long-term exploration so I 362 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:49,370 think that's something that we ought to 363 00:15:52,689 --> 00:15:50,809 be proud of every day when you come to 364 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:52,699 work say this is it this is the stepping 365 00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:54,490 stone this is really the stepping stone 366 00:16:00,160 --> 00:15:57,920 all right I can't add to that that was 367 00:16:01,780 --> 00:16:00,170 awesome and I just want to thank you so 368 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:01,790 much Mike for being thank you for having 369 00:16:05,860 --> 00:16:04,160 me it's awesome I appreciate it this is 370 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:05,870 a real treat so thank you and best 371 00:16:10,689 --> 00:16:07,850 wishes to you from everybody here at 372 00:16:11,290 --> 00:16:10,699 station life and we are gonna miss you 373 00:16:14,650 --> 00:16:11,300 so much 374 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:14,660 won't forget about you I'll be paying 375 00:16:52,199 --> 00:16:50,340 so not only are we studying the brain in 376 00:16:54,210 --> 00:16:52,209 space but we're working on new 377 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:54,220 countermeasures to train the brain for 378 00:16:59,730 --> 00:16:57,010 sensory motor adaptability right here on 379 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:59,740 the ground the Johnson Space Center Zone 380 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:01,839 dr. Jacob Bloomberg and his team are 381 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:04,089 hard at work creating new integrative 382 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:06,250 counter measures to mitigate post-flight 383 00:17:10,380 --> 00:17:08,170 disturbances in locomotor function 384 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:10,390 that's a fancy way to say that they are 385 00:17:14,340 --> 00:17:12,250 working on new training methods so 386 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,350 astronauts can return home and adjust 387 00:17:18,660 --> 00:17:16,240 more quickly to the effects of gravity 388 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:18,670 let's hear more about this training and 389 00:17:29,610 --> 00:17:20,920 its benefits from the man himself dr. 390 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:29,620 Jacob Bloomberg well one of the 391 00:17:34,260 --> 00:17:31,540 countermeasures that we're now currently 392 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:34,270 developing is called sensory motor 393 00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:36,610 adaptability training and what we're 394 00:17:41,130 --> 00:17:37,870 trying to do in this countermeasure is 395 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:41,140 basically train the brain to become more 396 00:17:45,930 --> 00:17:44,170 adaptable the brain is a very adaptable 397 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:45,940 machine allows you to adapt to so many 398 00:17:50,340 --> 00:17:48,160 things that were ordinary life and we're 399 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:50,350 trying to tap in to that inherent 400 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:53,050 adaptability to improve your ability to 401 00:17:57,030 --> 00:17:54,490 adapt to different gravitational 402 00:17:59,970 --> 00:17:57,040 transitions now the way we're going to 403 00:18:02,100 --> 00:17:59,980 do that essentially is to train you on 404 00:18:05,010 --> 00:18:02,110 the ground to become a better adapter 405 00:18:09,060 --> 00:18:05,020 but exposing you to different sensory 406 00:18:11,010 --> 00:18:09,070 motor transformations and what that 407 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,020 really means is what we're going to do 408 00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:13,360 is put you on a treadmill that's placed 409 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:15,280 on a six degree of freedom freedom 410 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:17,530 motion base with a virtual scene in 411 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:19,809 front and have you walk in very unusual 412 00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:23,140 walking and visual environments and what 413 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:25,120 we know is that kind of training 414 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:28,150 enhances your ability to adapt to new 415 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:30,010 environments so we can't simulate here 416 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:30,730 on the ground 417 00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:34,290 a partial gravitational environment 418 00:18:40,850 --> 00:18:38,190 or marks but we can simulate some of the 419 00:18:42,770 --> 00:18:40,860 sensory motor disturbances you will 420 00:18:45,530 --> 00:18:42,780 experience so you can think of these 421 00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:45,540 more as surrogate challenges and the 422 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:46,950 idea is the more you train with these 423 00:18:51,020 --> 00:18:48,809 surrogate challenges the better your 424 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:51,030 brain will be when they encounter you 425 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:53,340 get a new challenge and it hinges on 426 00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:56,880 this whole idea of learning to learn but 427 00:19:00,799 --> 00:18:58,799 this training does enhances the brain to 428 00:19:02,510 --> 00:19:00,809 learn to learn and that's really what 429 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:02,520 we're trying to do in our new 430 00:19:06,250 --> 00:19:05,130 countermeasure approach well prior to 431 00:19:08,299 --> 00:19:06,260 this we've been really discussing 432 00:19:09,650 --> 00:19:08,309 changes in behavior and effects of 433 00:19:12,169 --> 00:19:09,660 spaceflight on behavior for example 434 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:12,179 postural and gaining stability but the 435 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:13,710 brain itself is a tissue 436 00:19:18,770 --> 00:19:16,320 just like bone and muscle and it could 437 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:18,780 potentially change a result of exposure 438 00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:20,970 long duration space like we have some 439 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:22,980 evidence with some of the animal work 440 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:25,110 that there are structural changes that 441 00:19:27,860 --> 00:19:26,010 are associated with long-duration 442 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:27,870 spaceflights so we're now very 443 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:30,179 interested to see if long-duration space 444 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:33,450 by the is associated with chamber 445 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:35,450 changes in brain structure and function 446 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:38,010 so we now have a new study called neural 447 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:40,230 mapping and the pilot studies dr. Rachel 448 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:42,090 Seidler from the University of Michigan 449 00:19:47,570 --> 00:19:44,130 we're collaborating with her on this new 450 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:47,580 study to investigate this issue so what 451 00:19:53,330 --> 00:19:50,640 this study entails is looking at brain 452 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:53,340 structure and function using modern 453 00:19:58,100 --> 00:19:55,710 neural mapping methodology to look at 454 00:20:00,409 --> 00:19:58,110 how the brain as the tissue changes and 455 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:00,419 then compare that with potential changes 456 00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:03,090 in behavior and performance and look at 457 00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:05,070 the correlation between the toes and 458 00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:07,080 we're very excited about this new study 459 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:08,790 and I think it's going to real real some 460 00:20:38,610 --> 00:20:36,240 welcome back and thanks for watching 461 00:20:40,860 --> 00:20:38,620 this episode of station life brain in 462 00:20:43,020 --> 00:20:40,870 space today we learned how we're using 463 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:43,030 the International Space Station to 464 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:45,100 better understand how our bodies adapt 465 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,330 to weightless environments and 466 00:20:50,580 --> 00:20:48,880 gravitational transitions this gain 467 00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:50,590 knowledge will help us once we get to 468 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:52,990 Mars we learned about sensory motor 469 00:20:57,300 --> 00:20:55,360 adaptability training and functional 470 00:20:59,670 --> 00:20:57,310 recovery which also helps us better 471 00:21:01,440 --> 00:20:59,680 understand mobility challenges here on 472 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:01,450 the earth such as defining more 473 00:21:06,570 --> 00:21:03,190 effective rehabilitation interventions 474 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:06,580 in clinical populations and we got to 475 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:08,770 know the outgoing ISS program manager 476 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:12,190 Mike Suffredini talk about a solid show 477 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:14,890 this was it be sure to stay in touch and 478 00:21:18,570 --> 00:21:16,510 follow us on Facebook and Twitter for 479 00:21:20,490 --> 00:21:18,580 the latest research news and don't 480 00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:20,500 forget to download our groovy app on 481 00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:21,310 your mobile device